Friday, November 23, 2012
F-BAND: LOTF CHAPTER 6
Please post three questions that you'd like to discuss in class on Monday (after your vocabulary quiz). Please try to root your questions in the text. Choose lines that stand out to you, look at word choice, or question why Golding would create certain characters, conflicts, or scenarios.
For example, some good questions from Chapter 5 might be:
- Why did Golding name this chapter “Beast from Water”? What is he referring to? Is this title significant at all?
- As the boys are discussing their fears, Simon says, “Maybe there is a beast...Maybe the beast is only us” (p. 89). What does he mean by this?
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1) When the twins come and tell the rest of the group that they saw the beast no one argues. They all believe them. Why is it that the boys are so quick to accept what the twins have said? And why is it significant that Simon is the only one who is hesitant to believe the twins?
ReplyDelete2) As the boys are searching for the beast they come across a hill covered in caves. Jack is the boy who acts tough and like he can face anything, but when the boys are afraid of what might lie in the caves it is Ralph who steps up first and goes into the caves alone. What is the significance of this and how does it show a change in roles between Jack and Ralph?
3) When they are looking at the caves in the hill Jack says, "What a place for a fort!" (99). Originally they had come to this place to find the beast. They have found no sign of it and the boys have lost focus as to what they were looking for. What is the significance in this sudden change of attitudes in the boys, except Ralph who is still looking for the beast? What does this say about the beast? Do they still believe it exists?
1) What is the significance of Sam and Eric mistaking the dead parachutist for the beast?
ReplyDelete2) Why is Piggy the chosen character to stay behind and watch over the Littluns?
3) What is the significance that military airplanes were battling above the island while the boys were asleep? Why was is that the twins were asleep and didn't capture these events?
1) This chapter is called "Beast From Air" while chapter 5 was "Beast From Water:" what is the significance of having these chapters and chapter titles one after the other?
ReplyDelete2) Jack's immediate reaction upon learning that Samneric have seen the 'beast' is that "this'll be a real hunt!" Why, when in the past Jack has been at least somewhat equally frightened and aprehensive about their alleged beast, is he now only excited and eager to kill it?
3) The end of the chapter is quite abrupt. Despite Ralph's troubles, in the end he still manages to gather his group together again with one yell; yet the last sentence explains that "Jack led the way down the rock and accross the bridge" with no extra explanation. Why would Golding include this sentence? What might it show about where power and allegiance is beginning to lie in the boys?
1) In the beginning of the chapter 6 the parachuting dead body comes flying down to the island. The "sign" came from the grown-ups world. Can it be that the beast are grown-ups since they start every war?
ReplyDelete2) On page 103, it says, "Simon thought of the beast, there rose before his inward sight at the picture of a human at once heroic and sick." Why does Simon still think the beast is a human even after he was laughed upon in the assembly? What does he mean by "heroic" and "sick"?
3)On page 106, Jack states, "Couldn't let you do it on your own". Why couldn't Jack let Ralph go in the cave alone? What is the significance of this quote? Does this mean that Jack cares about Ralph?
1. "We've seen the beast with our own eyes. No-we weren't asleep-." Why do the twins think they should lie about being asleep, either way, they saw what they think to be the beast?
ReplyDelete2. The last chapter was "Beasts From Water," this chapter was called "Beasts From Air," does this mean the beasts are grown-ups, or in this case, soldiers?
3. Why does everyone automatically believe the twins about the beast but previously no one believed Simon?
1. Why does everyone accept that the beast is real when the twins vouch for it, but not when the littluns do?
ReplyDelete2. Even though Piggy is the outcast of the group, it seems strange that none of them notice, or perhaps care, that he is having an asthma attack. Do they leave him behind because they secretly want him to die?
3. On page 101, Jack says "We don't need the conch anymore.", is this a foreshadowing of change on the island? Does the author want us to know that the climax is approaching?
1. On page 114, Jack says that "we know who ought to say things" (114). Do you think he is talking only about himself? How does this relate to his survival of the fittest/ dictatorial behavior?
ReplyDelete2. What does the fact that the sign "from the world of grown-ups" (106) is a dead man on a parachute symbolize? How is he "the beast from air"?
3. What did the fight over whether to stay or leave between Jack and Ralph show about each of them?
1. Is the "Beast from Air" a dead soldier from the ongoing war? If so, why is Golding bringing this man from the adult world into the story?
ReplyDelete2. How will the “beast” affect the boys? Perhaps it will remind them of how badly they want to be rescued and brought back to their old lives, or civilization.
3. “Simon thought of the beast, there rose before his inward sight the picture of a human at once heroic and sick.” (103) Why does Golding choose Simon as the only one who thinks of the “beast” as a human? No one else has thought of this possibility. More generally, what does Simon’s character represent in the story?
1) “However, Simon thought of the beast, there rose before his inward sight the picture of a human at once heroic and sick.” (103). Here we see Simon, explain the beast living within the good/ evil mind of humans. Will his thought of the beast ever change? Will he confront the group with his suspicions?
ReplyDelete2) Do the boys really want to find the monster and face their fears? Or is it just a way to distract them from facing the fact that they may never go home?
3) Why does Golding incorporate the war in the story as the boys are all sleeping?
1. If the "Beast" is a dead man on a parachute this time, what or who was the "Beast" before this?
ReplyDelete2. What is the "pink squareness that underlay the structure of the island" and what is its significance?
3. Why do you think Golding chose the twins to be the ones who saw the beast first? Does it have to do with their responsibility with the fire and the idea of being saved?
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ReplyDelete1.) What does the explosion happening while the boys are asleep represent?
ReplyDelete2.) Ask Jack and Ralph rekindle their old relationship, how will this affect not only Jack's sanity, but Ralph's relationship with Piggy?
3.) What does the only adult in the story so far being dead mean to the reader and the children from the novel?
1. Is the figure that fell from the parachute a beast, or is it a military soldier, on look out on the island or trying to rescue the boys?
ReplyDelete2. Why did the author choose yet again Simon to be the voice of reason/the smartest one of the group? - He is the only one who still does not believe there is a beast.
3. Jack decides to abolish the conch on page 102. What consequences do you think this will have for the group?
1) On page 99 Ralph decides not to blow the conch, but to simply hold it above his head to get everyone's attention. What is author trying to say with this change of ritual?
ReplyDelete2) On page 102 Jack criticizes the role and use of the conch because he believes, "It's time some people knew they've got to keep quiet and leave deciding things to the rest of us". What does this antidemocratic statement say about Jack's character?
3) On page 100 Samneric tell what happened with the supposed "beast" and say that the beast followed them. This isn't a true statement. Did the boys just make up some of the facts about the story or did they truly believe it? Either way, why?
1) On page 106 rather than Ralph to find the "beast" on his own, Jack decides to follow him and in a way protect him. What does Golding mean by this? Does Jack truly want to help Ralph or is it once again for his own well-being.
ReplyDelete2) What does it mean that the "beast" is represented by a human and is actually given an entity to embody rather than being an idea?
3) On page 108, Roger shouts "We've got plenty of time." What message is Golding attempting to get across with these words?
1. Why are there countless references to rock, besides physical description, there seems to be a focus on rocks. 'You're off your rocker' or 'Stop rolling rocks' etc.
ReplyDelete2. What was this sign from the adults that no one witnessed?
3. Who is the person who fell from the sky?
1) Chapter 5 is called named "Beast from Water" and Chapter 6 is called "Beast From Air". Why is it that their titles have a parallel when only one of the beasts is believed to be real, and taken seriously? Why did the boys believe in this beast, but not the other one?
ReplyDelete2) In this chapter, as well as the others color is repeatedly mentioned. What is the significance of the color pink?
3) Why is Jack suddenly friendly again with Ralph, whereas before they were at odds? Is it because Ralph gives him responsibility?
1) Do the other boys see looking after the littleuns as an important job? Are they actually trusting Piggy and giving him responsibility or trying to keep him out of their way?
ReplyDelete2) Is Piggy considered a bigun because he is never allowed to go hunting while all the others are, is he not because the others lack of respect for him?
3) What is the beast? Could it be a part of some of their imaginations because they want to believe in it? Or is the beast real?
1) Why does Golding have the war going on while the boys are sleeping?
ReplyDelete2) All the boys immediately believe the twins when they say there are monsters on the island, but they did not believe Simon when he said it previously. Why do the twins carry more weight than Simon?
3) Is it possible that the boys name anything that they do not understand or fear the beast?
1) Why did the author choose to name chapter 5 Beast from Water and chapter 6 Beast from Air if so far it seems like the beast isn't actually an existing figure/animal?
ReplyDelete2) Jack says, "We don't need the conch anymore(...)It's time some people knew they've got to keep quiet and leave deciding things to the rest of us" (101-102). What does this lost of the significance the conch had represent? What role will this play later on in the book?
3) In this chapter you can really see Ralph begin to actually claim his spot by saying "I'm chief" (108) and other times before the chapter ends. It shows he's tired of Jack trying to take the lead just because he's a hunter. Will this lead to a bigger problem between Jack and Ralph? Will it completely split the boys up?
1) What do you think the dead parachutist represents, how does this show the boys that there is other more substantial problems taking place rather than their little quarrels on the island.
ReplyDelete2) How is Jack becoming the sovereign power on the island and how is he gaining this power from Ralph and the little one's.
3) How does the outside world's conflict relate to the boy's conflict. Does the author use to conflict on the outside world to dictate the book's future.
Does the twins inability to take Ralph's anger seriously demonstrate a lack of respect for him or more respect for him?
ReplyDeleteWhen Jack says that the conch is unnecessary, is he speaking out of rage, or was this premeditated?
Were the boys planning mutiny all along?
1. Who was the person that fell from the sky? Is his identity significant? If so, how?
ReplyDelete2. What is the significance of the boys always missing always their opportunities of being found? Is there even any significance, or is it all just a coincidence?
3. I just wonder what the boys are going to do when they find the man who fell from the sky. How are they going to react? Will they see the man who fell out of the sky as a sign/symbol, the way the narrator described him?
-Kayla Boothe
1. who do you think will make a better leader? Ralph or Jack?
ReplyDelete2. Did they actually see a beast or were the kids only scaring themselves?
3. Is Jack actually tough or is he just acting it so the other boys will listen to him?
1. Do the boys have respect or fear for Ralph in the beginning of the chapter? On page 132, sam says, "Lucky he went for Jack, 'stead of us."
ReplyDelete2. What does Golding mean when he says, "The silence grew oppressive" on page 139?
3. Why does Golding, sort of unrealistically, make all the boys so obsessed with random things on the island, like building a castle, when all that should really matter is survival, and the signal fire? Why does he make them almost unbelievably foolish?
1.) What is the author trying to portray by having Sam and Eric mistake the parachuting dead body for a beast? \
ReplyDelete2.) Does Jack care about the littluns at all? because he does not care for them and just wants to hunt the beast.
3.) Who is the dead body that fell from the sky? does it have anythihng to do with any of the characters?
1) why do the boy automaticly go into instinct mode when they hear if the "the beast" by samneric?
ReplyDelete2) who is the man the boys believe is the beast? Is the beast being a man give any significance?
3) What does it symbolize to having Piggy stay with the kids then any of the other boys?