Friday, November 23, 2012

C-BAND: LOTF CHAPTER 6

Please post three questions that you'd like to discuss in class on Monday (after your vocabulary quiz). Please try to root your questions in the text. Choose lines that stand out to you, look at word choice, or question why Golding would create certain characters, conflicts, or scenarios. 

For example, some good questions from Chapter 5 might be: 


- Why did Golding name this chapter “Beast from Water”? What is he referring to? Is this title significant at all?

- As the boys are discussing their fears, Simon says, “Maybe there is a beast...Maybe the beast is only us” (p. 89). What does he mean by this?

28 comments:

  1. 1. What is the significance of the boys looking or seeking out the monster?

    2. Is it significant that boys began to really believe in the monsters at the same time their civilization began to fall apart?

    3. Are the monsters a way that the boys distract themselves from the more real problem of them being trapped on an island?

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  2. 1. Why don't the "littluns" want to do work, even when it benefits themselves? What does this saying something about children in society?

    2. Is it significant that they mistake a man who was part of the war as the beast?

    3. Why don't the boys question whether or not Sam and Eric have actually seen a beast? Why are they all eager to accept the existence of a beast on the island, even though it scares them?

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  3. 1. Is it important or is it significant that the boys were asleep while military airplanes were battling fiercely above the island?
    2. Is their an importance in the relashionship between Sam and Eric, (twins) who were supposed to watch the signal fire, that has to do with them falling asleep
    3.What is Golding saying about man when the boys find an undiscovered part of the island with arms? Does the fact that they're armed affect what they find? If they weren't armed and with fear would they have reached a part of the island that none of them has ever explored before?

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  4. 1)Why does Ralph stay leader if it seems like he doesn't want to be anymore?
    2)Is it important that the group didn't question the existence of the "beast" like before?
    3)Is it significant that each individual of the group have different priorities on their mind?

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  5. 1- What does it say about the twins that they believe the parachutist is the beast?

    2- What does it say about the group as to why they let Ralph go on his own into the cave without offering to follow him?

    3- Is there some significance to the recurring pattern of letting the fire burn out?

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  6. 1. How did the boys not realize that there were fighter jets shooting and bombing one another in the sky?

    2. Is it significant that Ralph is the one who steps up when no one else wants to go into the cave?

    3. Is it significant that Ralph and Jack end up working together in the cave? Could this mean that they are becoming friends? Is this a foreshadowing of any future events in which they could work together?

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  7. 1. Does Jack really believe that there is a beast, or is he just using the littluns fear of the beast to increase his dominance as a hunter?

    2. Does Jack want to be in charge of the group or does he just want to best Ralph?

    3. While in the cave, Jack and Ralph almost get along, until, "Consciousness of the bad times in between came to them both" (106). Does the fact that they almost got along foreshadow a future alliance between them?

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  8. 1. On page 99 it states "soon the darkness was full of claws, full of the awful unkonwn and menace", is this fear new or has it always been there and just coming out now as it is talked about as "the beast?
    2. Why is it that Golding made the chapters named "Beast of the Water" and "Beast of the Air" does this show the boys need to find the beast in everything they do?
    3. Will order ever be restored with the boys, or from what we see happening is there no way to restore full order?

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  9. - Do the other boys not care about being rescued at all?
    - Does Jack cause trouble because he is upset with the decision about the leader?
    - What is going on with Jack and Ralph's relationship? Do they like each other, but are bothered by each others leadership choices?

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  10. Lily Cook
    1.) Why, all of the sudden, did Jack and Ralph seem to become friends again in this chapter?
    2.) Will any of the boys discover the body of the parachuter in later chapters, and realize that there's no beast?
    3.) Why are the majority of the boys so careless about the signal fire? Isn't getting rescued universally important?

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  11. 1) What do you think the significance of lightness and darkness is in this chapter? (118)
    2) It seems that not everyone on the island is motivated to be resucued. If they all were, they would be focussing on that and only that. Why are some not as persistant about coming back home? And also, what is their life at home like? In some way or another could they be putting off returning because they don't like their home?
    3) What would the island be like if only Ralph were in charge, or only Jack were in charge? Is it better to have two leaders or one?

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  12. 1)Ralph is described as a good leader, but then why is he troubled by the thought of spears and violence ?

    2)On page 98, Ralph dreams about where he came from, "feeding the ponies with sugar over the garden wall. Then someone was shaking his arm, telling him that it was time for tea." How does this sort of background compare to Ralph's status on the island?

    3)Are there multiple beasts on the island now? There was the one that Percival heard at night and then the figure in the parachute. What is going on with these so called "beasts", from water and the air"?

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  13. 1) Why does Ralph allow Jack to lead the search? Is he giving up?

    2) Will Ralph and Jack begin to work together again and start to get along better?

    3) I wonder if Jack is tricking Ralph and wants to do something like hurting him. Maybe he is plotting to overthrow Ralph and take over all the power on the island.

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  14. 1. Is Jack and Ralph going to be friends until the end? Or will they turn on each other?

    2. I have noticed that the boys don't care much about the signal fire, why? What does the signal fire signify then? Why aren't they motivated to get off the island?

    3. Is there a significance onto why the boys keep on missing their chance to get rescued? (with the fire burning out and the military planes)

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  15. 1. Is it significant that the parachute (which is most likely connected to an adult body) is seen as a beast to Sam and Eric? Could this suggest that the boys are close to losing all their ideas of civilization?
    2. Why is Ralph the only one who is concerned about being rescued? Have the others accepted the idea that they may be stranded on this island forever?
    3. Does Jack lead the way to the castle because he wants to prove that he is a better leader than Ralph? The chapter ends with Jack leading the way down the rock and across the bridge; is Golding foreshadowing to readers that there may be a shift in power?

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  16. 1. Did somebody parachuet out of the sky?

    2. What happened to Jack, where did he go? and why did he let Ralph go first without arguing?

    3. Why does Ralph all of asudden notice that the fire is out when the boys are trying to make a fort?
    -Marcello Brattesani

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  17. 1. Is the dead parachutist a symbol of danger and savagery, just like the beast?
    2. By letting Jack lead the search is Ralph giving up his leadership?
    3. On pg.118 Golding talks about the lightness and darkness, what does that symbolize?

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  18. Olivia Shlansky!
    1. Why did Sam and Eric lie to the group and say that the "beast" assaulted them? Were they trying to make the group more scared of the beast?
    2. How do none of the boys notice explosions in the sky?
    3. At the end of the chapter, the boys don't like Ralph's commands, but obey anyway. Before, they used to ignore Ralph. Are they starting to realize that it is vital to have a leader? Or are they just terrified that if they don't listen, the "beast" might hurt them?

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  19. 1) Who is the war between and how has it effected the boys life before the island?
    2) What is the significance of the obsession for finding the beast? I'd rather stay away from the places i thought it lived rather than explore them.
    3) How is the island going to emotionally traumatize the boys later in their lives?

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  20. 1) What, if any is the significance of the parachutist casting those scary shadows?
    2) Is the boys' initial reaction to go look for the beast and hunt it instead of staying away from it a sign of their new primal instincts on the island?
    3) Ralph and Jack seem to have become better friends now at a crucial time where all the boys are afraid- is this just temporary?

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  21. 1. Have the boys become so accustomed to living on the island, that they do not care about being rescued?

    2. Why don't the boys maintain the fire? Really, it doesn't seem to be a very strenuous task...

    3. In my opinion the boys' respect for Ralph's authority seems to be dwindling, will Jack step in and try to replace Ralph?

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  22. 1. Why did the the twins: Sam and Eric make an accusation that the beast had assaulted them?

    2. Why do the boys struggle to be rescued, are they thinking the worse that they will never be found and focus on surviving? Why aren't they able to do simple task, for example keeping the warning fire alive? Why not pick new people to rule over these tasks?

    3. Why are the boys afraid to speak up to Ralph on how they feel he is leading them?

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  23. 1. Does the dead parachuter who is supposed to be a beast symbolize the kids' fear of adulthood or growing up?
    2. How come the kids always seem to lose sight of what's important and tend to ignore their responsibilities? It was already once that they needed the signal fire and they still can't maintain it.
    3. Are the kids going crazy? Sam and Eric claimed they were assaulted, yet they weren't touched. Is the island making them delusional?

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  24. 1. Has the boys' make-shift society on the island functioned well enough to push thoughts of rescue to the back of their minds?

    2. "A strange thing happened in his head. Something flittered there in front of his mind like a bat's wing, obscuring his idea" (107-108). What blocked Ralph's train of thought? Will it become a problem in the future?

    3. "Soon, in a matter of centuries..." (105). What does the role of time's passage play in the book?

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  25. 1-why is death and sleeping so repetitive within in this chapter will it foreshadow something that will happen later on in the book?
    2-why does Ralph lose interest in being the leader?
    3-is jack really going to try and replace ralph now that ralph seems to lack interest in running this island?

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  26. -will discovering that the parachuter is not a beastie make the children less fearful?
    -what did the remolding of Ralph and Jacks friendship represent in this chapter?
    - what is the theme of overcoming fear significant in this chapter?

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  27. 1) "But they could never manage to do things sensibly if that meant acting independently" (96). Why cant the boys lose their dependency on grown ups? Will they ever step up to the plate?
    2) What is the significance of the flames throughout the entire chapter?
    3) "Piggy took the conch"(101). Does this symbolize Piggy becoming a leader? He is becoming the adult of the group?

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  28. -Why do the twins make up being assaulted by the "beast"?
    -Why did it take so long for Piggy to step up to the rest of them?
    -Why does Jack lead the search instead of Ralph?

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